A Jealous Mother Abuses Her 6 Kids and Horrifically Murders Two of Her Daughters | Theresa Knorr

In 1984 and 1985, two young women’s bodies were found burned and abandoned

In 1984 and 1985, two young women’s bodies were found burned and abandoned in California. Their deaths remained unsolved until 1993, when an investigation revealed that their murderer was closer to home than anyone could have expected. Welcome, welcome, welcome to Season five Lambs. It is so good to be back and I missed y’all. How have y’all been? Leave a comment below to let me know how your December went before I go any further.

This episode is the fifth episode of Love and Heartbreak to Homicide

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Teresa Jimmy Cross married Clifford Clyde Sanders in 1962; they had four children

And while you’re getting into all of that, let’s get into this episode of Love and Murder. Teresa Jimmy Cross was born on March 14, 1946 in Sacramento, California. She was the youngest of three children born to parents Swanee Gay and Jim M. Cross. Her her family faced significant challenges including financial struggles and Jim’s chronic illness, which uh, left him unable to work. After Jim’s death from Parkinson’s disease in 1961, Swanee sold the family home and moved them into a cramped apartment. Swanee herself then died when Teresa was just, uh, 15 years old. After her mother’s death, Theresa started dating 20 year old Clifford Clyde Sanders. Teresa married Clifford on September 29, 1962, just after her 16th birthday. She had dropped out of high school and marriage was likely seen as an opportunity for stability or an escape from her troubled home life. Clifford, a, uh, young working class man, supported the family by taking on manual labor jobs. Teresa took his last name and became Teresa Sanders during their marriage. After their marriage, Teresa and Clifford stayed in Sacramento and they had two children. Howard Clyde Sanders, born in 1963, which was about a year after they were married. And Sheila Gay Sanders. Born in 1965, Teresa was reportedly a, uh, demanding wife and mother, often berating Clifford and attempting to assert control over every aspect of their lives. The marriage quickly went bad due to Teresa’s escalating jealousy, accusations of infidelity, and her controlling behavior. Clifford reportedly grew tired of Theresa’s outbursts and threatened to leave her on several occasions. The turning point came on, uh, July 6, 1964, which was the day after Clifford’s birthday. The couple had a heated argument when Clifford decided to leave Teresa, threatening to move out permanently. Teresa, in turn, became enraged, and in a fit of anger, she shot Clifford in the back with a rifle, killing him instantly. She later claimed self defense, alleging that Clifford had been abusive. But investigators found no evidence to support her claim. Teresa was arrested and charged with Clifford’s murder. Despite her claims, neighbors reported frequent arguments and the court heard conflicting accounts of her temperament. But Teresa managed to convince the jury that she had acted in self defense. Despite significant evidence suggesting premeditation, as well as testimony from Saunders family contradicting these claims. She was acquitted in September 1964 and walked free. After her acquittal, Teresa made an unusual request to recover the murder weapon from the district attorney’s office. Now, I’m not sure if they actually gave it to her, but isn’t it kind of suspicious that she wanted it back? That didn’t ring any alarm bells in anyone’s head. After this, she quickly remarried, moving on to Robert Knorr Sr. But her pattern of controlling, abusive behavior only escalated. Teresa and Robert had four children together. Suzanne Marlene Knorr, born 1966. Basically, she was born shortly after their marriage. And side note, I just love the spelling that was given to her of Suzanne. It’s actually literally spelled Suzanne. S, U, E, S a N. And I really like it. Anyways, the next kid was William Knorr, born 1967. Then Robert Knorr Jr. Born 1968. Then Teresa Marie Knorr, who they called Terry, born 1970. So it’s like, wow, after she got with Robert, she was just pregnant every year. So now in total, Teresa has six children, four with Robert and two with Clifford. Teresa and Robert stayed in California and stayed in the Sacramento area and. And their life was modest, but they had financial struggles, as do y’all. But as time went by, the marriage went bad, as it seems like it’s happening with all of Teresa’s marriages. Teresa and Robert divorced in 1970, only a few years after their wedding and probably a few months after Terry was born. Now, according to reports they got divorced because of, uh, Teresa’s violent temper, Robert’s drinking, and just never being around. So people said that he drank heavily and was often not home. And this behavior would have clashed with Teresa’s need for control, because if he’s drinking and not coming back home, and maybe she’s telling him, basically, stop drinking and come back home, of course he’s not listening to her. So this would have made things even worse. There were also reports of unfaithfulness from both sides, leading to resentments and distrust. And also there were indications that the relationship involved violence. Now, I don’t know if it was just like Teresa going after Robert or was it both of them? Either way, there was domestic abuse in the relationship. So they filed for divorce in 1970. After the divorce, Robert just went to get a gallon of milk and just never came back. Like, they never saw him again. Teresa had full custody of the four children and continued raising them under increasingly abusive and neglectful circumstances. Teresa and her children frequently moved, Living in various apartments and homes in the Sacramento area. Witnesses, including her own children, described her as controlling, paranoid, and violent. She isolated her children, moving them frequently and pulling them out of school to prevent outside influence. Her punishments for her children ranged from, uh, beating to starvation. And she often justified her actions with twisted logic, saying that she was protecting them or teaching them discipline. While Teresa showed her preference towards her sons, she still maintained strict control over their lives. She interfered with their jobs and their relationships, forcing them to quit work if she felt that it threatened her authority. The siblings lived under constant surveillance, with Teresa ordering them to monitor each other. Around 1983 to 1984, the family lived in a small apartment near Sacramento’s Auburn boulevard, which is an area at the time that was known for heavy prostitution. Neighbors started to notice troubling signs that something was very wrong in this household. The apartment was consistently filthy and consistently reeking of urine, and the children were never allowed outside. How is it reeking of urine? Like there are no animals in there. So is it just from the humans living in the house? On the rare occasions that neighbors caught glimpses of the children, they described them as fearful, nervous, and unusually high strung, which is a recipe for you to call cps. Sacramento’s child welfare authorities received at least one report of abuse, but no action was taken. Okay, so I’m saying that was a recipe to call cps, and cps is saying, nah, I’m busy adding to this issue. At the time, county policies allowed documentations to be destroyed. After five years so basically, even if, if somebody did call and CPS said, okay, we’re swamped right now, we’ll get back to it. After five years, they would have destroyed that documentation. So if anything were to happen, they would have been like, nope, nobody ever called for this family. We had no idea. Teresa routinely beat her children with belts and hangers, threw knives at them lambs and burned them with cigarettes. Her violence often targeted her daughters, Sheila and Susan, who she resented as they matured into young women. The physical abuse included systemic torture techniques like beating the children while wearing leather gloves. What. What does that do? Not, not that I’m wondering, uh, I just don’t understand the significance of wearing the leather gloves. Does that make it hurt more or something? Force feeding food and ew, vomit. Handcuffing victims to furniture and using a specialized beating paddle. What the. Wow. The abuse reached horrifying extremes in 1984. 18 year old Susan, who was outspoken and rebellious, was often the focus of Teresa’s rage. In one instance, Teresa shot Susan in the chest during an argument. Despite the injury, Teresa refused to seek medical treatment for her daughter, leaving Susan to heal in excruciating pain.

Teresa justified her actions, claiming Susan had provoked her

Teresa justified her actions, claiming Susan had provoked her. Uh, it was her fault. A second shooting occurred when Teresa ordered Terry to guard Susan with a.22 caliber pistol. She gave the youngest girl. Okay, this is 1984, so Terry’s about 14 here. And she gave Terry a, uh.22 caliber pistol and told her to watch her older sister. And of course, the weapon discharged accidentally when William dropped kitchen utensils. So basically her brother dropped some kitchen utensils. The sound scared Terry and Terry. Terry ended up shooting the gun, and this struck Susan in the abdomen again. Rather than seeking medical attention, Teresa cleaned up the blood stained carpet and attempted basic first aid. So the carpet first, right? Not even your child. At one point, Susan managed to escape and sought help at a psychiatric hospital, where she bravely recounted the abuse she had suffered. But Teresa arrived at the hospital and dismissed her daughter’s claim, saying that Susan had mental issues. And authorities said okay and released the girl back to her mother without any further investigation. I have so much to say at this that I’m not even going to say anything, if that even makes sense. When they got back home, Susan faced the full force of her mother’s rage. Teresa punished her by ordering her other children to beat her, forcing them to participate in the abuse. After that incident, the children’s isolation deepened when Teresa removed them from school, cutting off the education entirely. By the way, most of her children never advanced beyond the eighth grade because she would just pull them out of school. So they only had an 8th grade education. And where is CPS or the school district or anybody checking out on this? Like, she also cut off their access to phones and confined them indoors, Leaving them with no friends, no support system, and no means of seeking help. Later, Terry would talk about those years, saying, quote, we lived in constant fear. It wasn’t just the beatings. It was the way she made us feel like we couldn’t escape even if we wanted to. Teresa continued abusing Susan, accusing her of witchcraft, and believed she had put a curse on the family. A year after the shooting, Susan begged to leave for Alaska. Teresa agreed on one condition. Removing the bullet that could serve as evidence. Using the kitchen floor as an operating table, she cut into Susan’s back with a kitchen knife to get the slug out. The amateur surgery led to a severe infection, and Susan developed sepsis that left her bedridden and in excruciating pain. Teresa was also obsessed with the idea of cleansing Susan, Both physically and spiritually. She accused Susan of lying and believed that her internal organs needed to be cleansed of evil. So Teresa forced Susan to drink bleach lambs. After this, as Susan’s health deteriorated because, I mean, you shot her twice, haven’t taken her to the hospital, decided to cut a bullet out of her back, and then gave her Clorox to drink. So as her health is going downhill, Teresa’s paranoia went uphill. She became convinced that Susan was a liability who could expose the family secrets if she ever sought help. So Teresa came up with a solution and decided that Susan needed to die. Just, uh, this is getting all kind of crazy. I mean, it’s been there already, but I just. It’s just taken left and right and up. I can’t. Oh, my God. Susan ordered her son to help carry out her plan. Under her instructions, the boys were forced to duct tape Susan’s mouth and bind her body. Teresa then placed Susan, who was still alive, into a cardboard box. Teresa and her sons drove to a remote area near Squaw valley, California. And at this remote location, which was near ski resort entrance, they placed Susan on a pile of her belongings. And following, uh, their mother’s orders, at gunpoint. At gunpoint, the brothers doused their sister with gasoline and set her on fire, burning her alive. Ah. Uh, lambs, lambs, lambs. The next morning, on July 17, 1984, investigators found Susan’s body still smoldering. Witnesses had reported seeing the fire, but they didn’t realize a person was inside of it. And although we know who this is, the burned body at that time could not be identified. She was labeled as a Gein Doe and her case went cold for nearly a decade. Teresa, on the other hand, showed absolutely no remorse for Susan’s death. And within months she turned her abuse towards her daughter, 20 year old Sheila, who at one time had been Teresa’s favorite. Sheila was described as beautiful and outgoing, often drawing attention for her looks. However, because Teresa is a, uh, jealous bitch, this became a source of conflict with her mother. Teresa was intensely jealous of Sheila’s appearance and believed her beauty would lead her to promiscuity or betrayal. Betrayal of what? As Sheila grew older, Teresa began targeting her for verbal, emotional and physical abuse, accusing her of stealing, lying and betraying the family again. Betraying what, how? Teresa began subjecting Sheila to increasingly harsh punishments, including beating and confinement. Then Teresa just all out accused Sheila of promiscuity. And in May 1985, she forced Sheila into prostitution to support the family while she, Teresa, collected unemployment benefits. So you accuse her of being promiscuous, so then you send her to be a, uh, prostitute. I mean, the only way I could see that going is you saying, well, you want to be promiscuous? Well go work for the family and be promiscuous. Which either way is freaking diabolical. While, you know, the mother Teresa sat on her ass and collected unemployment. Initially, Teresa was pleased with the arrangement, you know, because she’s getting unemployment and Sheila being pretty brought in a lot of money. So because of this, Teresa allowed Sheila unusual freedom to leave the house. Later, Teresa accused Sheila of contracting a sexually transmitted infection and bringing it into the house. As well as being pregnant, there was nothing for her to ever believe this happened. And in other reports it showed that Sheila never had an STI and was never pregnant. But just out of the blue, she said she brought in an STI and she was pregnant. And where she got the STI from was she claimed that she contracted Sheila’s supposed STI through the toilet seat. Or it could be, ma’am, that maybe you were projecting and you were the promiscuous one and you caught an STI and then you’re trying to blame it on your daughter who you forced into prostitution. This led Teresa to believe that Sheila had betrayed the family again. How? And that she needed to be punished severely. So she said Sheila was uncleaned and locked her in a two foot square closet without ventilation for days. Sheila was confined in the closet with no Food, no water, and no access to a bathroom. The closet was sealed shut, preventing Sheila from escaping or even getting help. Her siblings terrified of Teresa because, remember, she held her sons at gun point, forcing them to help her murder their sister. So the children are completely terrified. So if Theresa said, don’t open the door, they didn’t open the door. However, Terry, who was 15 at the time, defied her mother’s orders and at one point in time gave Sheila a beer to drink. She wanted Sheila to confess. That was mother’s way. Beat them until they confess.

Susan Knorr tried to report her sister’s murders to Utah police in 1985

This was a quote from Terri. Ultimately, Sheila was left to suffer alone. Her condition deteriorated rapidly due to to dehydration and starvation. And on June 21, 1985, Sheila eventually died from dehydration, and her body remained in the closet for three additional days, where it started filling the apartment with decomposition odors. After figuring out, I guess, where the smell was coming from and discovering that Sheila had died, Teresa once again enlisted her sons to help dispose of the body. Teresa ordered them to remove Sheila’s body from the closet, place it in a cardboard box, and then transport it to a remote location. The family drove to a deserted area near Truckee, California, which was near the Truckee Tahoe Airport, where they dumped Sheila’s body in a dumpster. Teresa then instructed her sons to burn the box and any belongings that they could identify as Sheila’s. The body was discovered days later, but, like her sisters, remained unidentified for years. Authorities classified it as a Gein Doe because there was no identifying information for her. And that was it. For years, Theresa’s crimes just went undiscovered. Terry, who had been terrified of her mother for years in the late 80s, found the courage to report the murders to law enforcement. Well, you know what? Let me rephrase that. She tried to report her sister’s murders to Utah police, but authorities dismissed her accounts as fake. Even though she provided detailed accounts of the abuse and the deaths of Susan and Sheila, they dismissed her reports. Authorities said that her stories didn’t connect with the description of these two unidentified bodies that they had discovered years earlier. And they sent her to a therapist, and a therapist said that, no, this girl is making this up all in her head. There is no way our mother could do that. This just does not sound real. And they shoot her off. Like, can you believe this? You have two Gein does, multiple reports of abuse, and this victim trying to come forward. And the police and a therapist apparently are just like, nah, uh, like, what does it take? What does it take to get this woman in Trouble. I don’t understand it. That’s why she’s doing what she’s doing. The turning point came in October 1993, when Terry, who was 23 at this time, tried again. She was watching America’s Most Wanted and then called them. The show directed her to place her county detectives, who then investigated the area where his sister’s bodies were found. Sheriff Donald Nunes with the Placer County Sheriff Department noted that Terry’s detailed descriptions matched previously unconnected evidence. So basically, she had said all this before, but this was the first sheriff that actually did his due diligence and matched what she was saying with the evidence that they had. Investigators reopened the cold cases of the Gein does, and with Terry’s detailed testimony, they linked the remains to Susan Knorr and Sheila Knorr. Law enforcement officers quickly moved to apprehend the suspects. On November 4, 1993, William was arrested in Woodland, California. Why was he arrested? On November 10, 1993, Teresa was captured in Salt Lake City, Utah. The investigation revealed that Teresa had been working as a caregiver for an 86 year old woman in Salt Lake City under her maiden name, Cross. So she was going by Teresa Cross at the time she was formally charged. On November 15, 1993, she was charged with two counts of murder, two counts of conspiracy to commit murder, and two special circumstances charges for multiple murder and murder by torture. She pled. What? Lambs, let’s do this for the first episode of season five. We already know what she pled, but let’s say it together. What did she plead? Lambs? Not guilty. Robert, already serving time in Nevada for an unrelated murder during a Las Vegas robbery, provided testimony against his mother. In the days leading up to a potential trial. The prosecution’s strategy centered on presenting Teresa as a controlling, seductive, sadistic and delusional woman who systematically abused her children, which she was ultimately murdering. Suzanne and Sheila, their goal was to establish Teresa as the mastermind, which she was, behind the crimes. While relying on the testimony of her surviving children. Terry described years of escalating abuse culminated in the murders of her sisters. She recounted everything that I already told y’all about how Teresa forced Susan to drink the bleach and burned her alive. How Sheila was confined in a closet until she died and then dumped in a dumpster. And the fear and control Teresa had over everyone in the household, manipulating her children into participating in and covering, uh, up the murders. So basically, everything I told y’all, Terry ah, told law enforcement. William also testified against his mother. His testimony corroborated Terry’s accounts and provided details about the logistics of how Susan’s and Sheila’s bodies were disposed of. It also showed Teresa’s direct involvement and commands during the crime and the climate of fear and obedience within the household. Basically something Terry had already said. The prosecution then connected the unidentified remains of Susan and Sheila to Terry and William’s testimony. DNA evidence and forensic analysis tied the remains to Teresa’s daughters. So it’s like, ma’am, what are you not guilty of now? All the evidence is pointing to you. The prosecution argued that Teresa’s motives were driven by jealousy, delusion, and a pathological need to dominate her children. The prosecution argued that her ability to evade justice for so long stemmed from her control over her children and her manipulation of the system. Prosecutors also sought to demonstrate that Teresa’s crimes were premeditated. For instance, her refusal to seek medical care for Susan after her shooting or after she shot her. Let me say it that way. Uh, the planning and deliberation involved in disposing of both of the daughter’s bodies and the isolation of her children, which enabled her to basically do whatever she wants without anybody interfering. The defense focused on mitigating her responsibilities from the crime, which they attempted to paint her as a deeply troubled woman with a history of trauma and mental illness. The defense suggested that Teresa’s behavior stemmed from severe mental health issues and delusions, including paranoia, which they were saying that her belief that her daughters were conspiring against her or practicing witchcraft, which was the evidence of them saying that she was a delusional thinker. And also they highlighted Teresa’s history of being in abusive relationships, including her claim of abuse by her first husband. And they used all of this to try to project that she was a product of a, uh, violent and stupid unstable upbringing, which, if you just went back a little bit and did a little bit of research, you would have found out that, you know, she’s the one who shot Clifford and she was the one who was abusive in all the relationships. So, yeah, bad defense. In 1995, Teresa ultimately pled guilty. She changed her plea to the murders of her daughters, which meant the case never went to a full jury trial, which meant there was no real need for a full defense. So, I mean, everything that they were building and they were bringing forward kind of crumpled because they didn’t need them. Now, it’s interesting to note that Teresa only changed her plea from not guilty after learning of Robert’s plea deal and the fact that he testified against her. So I guess she thought she had this strong hold on her children, especially her boys. And her boys would never testify against her. Teresa’s guilty plea was part of a plea bargain of her own to avoid the death penalty. What does it take? How did she get a plea bargain? But you know what? If it was to prevent the children from going to trial and relive in all of this and they agreed, then, okay. But if it was just her manipulating the system again, the guilty plea ensured that on October 17, 1995, Teresa received, uh, two consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole, and also, like I said, avoiding the full jury trial. Now, Suzanne’s murder might never have been solved if not for her younger sister, Terry. Suzanne and Sheila’s. Sheriff Nunes later admitted that the case could have been solved much earlier if, quote, a simple computer check could have connected her descriptions to existence cases. We failed to act when we should have. Then detective Bob lundberg, who is part of the Placer county sheriff’s department, said of Terry’s persistence, quote, she didn’t want her mother to get away with any of this, and she wanted to tell her story. Now, in response to sheriff noon’s claim that saying that this case could have been solved years early if they had just check the computer, I just want to say that this wouldn’t even happened if CPS had followed up with reports years earlier and also if police had believed Susan in the first place.

Teresa’s sons received reduced sentences for their roles in the crimes

So there’s kind of a lot of blame to go around. Oh, and let’s not forget going all the way back to the murder of her first husband, where she was just let off despite testimony. So, yeah, lots of blame to go around. Teresa’s sons received plea deals and were given reduced sentences for their roles in the crimes, as they were minors at the time and acted under their mother’s control. To which I asked if they were minors and you knew this was done under heavy duress. Wait, wait, I forgot to tell you. One of the dresses. William had admitted to lighting the match that set Suzanne on fire, but he said that his mother ordered him to light the fire, and if he did not, she would use the remaining gasoline to set him on fire. So back to what I was saying. If you knew they did this as minors and under extreme duress being told that they were going to be set on fire. And, uh, the first one was she was holding them at gunpoint. Extreme duress. How were they given any charges whatsoever? You don’t charge the adult when you’re supposed to, you know, say she murdered her first husband, but you charge the kids, granted, they’re now adults, but you know what I mean. You also didn’t believe the other kids when they told you what was going on. But the adult just gets to do whatever she wants. Like, none of this seems right to me. Am, um, I the only one seeing this? William received probation, which. Okay. And mandatory therapy, which I agree with that. For his role in Suzanne’s murder. Robert Jr. Pled guilty to being an accessory after Sheila’s murder. And this added on three years concurrent with his existing sentence. I already told y’all. While why he was currently in prison, Teresa’s case currently remains one of the most disturbing examples of familial abuse and, uh, violence. The surviving Noor children carried dead deep psychological scars from their years of abuse. Terry, who had escaped her mother’s control, had settled in Sandy, Utah, working as a grocery store cashier. Unbeknownst to her, Teresa Cross had lived and worked in the same neighborhood before her arrest. So, remember, I said police had found out that she was going by her maiden name, so her mother lived in her same neighborhood. Now, I wonder if that was another form of psychological abuse. Like, even though Terry was. Had moved out and she thought she was away from her mother’s clutches, her mother was going to try and, like, slowly show her that she was still watching her or something. I wonder what that was about. Terry continued living in Utah with her second husband and has spoken publicly about her experiences advocating for victims of abuse and sharing her story to help others. Her second marriage was facing challenges, so I’m not sure if they’re even together. This woman really messed up her children to the point that it’s probably not even possible for them to have normal relationships with others without first going to therapy, and that might not even work. This woman really messed up her children. Unfortunately, in 2011, at the age of 41, Terry died. While the cause of her death has not been officially disclosed or widely reported, some sources suggest that it may have been related to health issues or complications stemming from the trauma and stress she endured throughout her life. William reported continuing nightmares about his childhood and maintained, quote, very fearful of his mother. Years later, after serving his sentence, Robert Jr. Was released and maintained a low profile. There are no recent updates or public records indicating his current location or what he’s doing. Not that I would have delved deep to find that. I just did a surface search to. Just to see where they were now, because he deserves his privacy, so I’m not trying to find out. The Sacramento authorities acknowledged receiving at least one child welfare report. But they failed to take action. And that is the horrific case of Teresa Noor. What did you think about that case? You heard everything. I thought about it throughout the case. That was a crazy beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Like I cannot even, even the psychologist thought that Teresa’s daughter was making this up. That’s how crazy this woman was. So what do you think about that case? And we’re back to the polls for season five. Your polls are back. Yay. I know y’all were waiting for it. And the polls are back. So as I always tell you, you can answer the poll on the Facebook group, you can answer it in the Patreon. And actually, if you’re not ready to subscribe for the Patreon, you can, uh, you can still sign up for free and take the poll patreon.com forward/loveandmurder. So you could take the poll in the Patreon, in the Facebook group, on Spotify, or on my new substack. And substack is the weekly newsletter that’s coming out, so you could find all those links in the show notes below. The poll that’s coming out is, do you think that Robert and William should have been charged in dealing with helping their mother? So I know Robert, he was in prison already for a murder that was completely unrelated to, to this case. So taking that out, just the case in dealing with his siblings, do you think Robert and William should have been charged? So go ahead and take that poll and let me know your thoughts on this case in the comments below. Have you heard about this case before? And if you have, what did you think of it? If you hadn’t, what did you think of it? But that’s all I have for you for the first case of season five. We made it to season five. I’m so excited.

One star review based on how I pronounce my words is completely asinine

And I did say that I have a bit of minutia that I wanted to talk about at the end of the episode. So I don’t normally check my reviews and I’m really happy that I don’t because some of these reviews out here are just like. But in prepping for season five, I went through was checking my numbers, checking my reviews and everything like that. And I saw that I had already review that was left. I think it was like in November or something like that where some person left me a, uh, one star review because they hated that. I leave the ing out of my words. Like, how asinine can you be? I I who says stemming, snowing going, uh, and if you do that’s you. But I mean for you to leave, take your time out of your day and leave. A one star review based on how I say words is completely asinine. The point of this podcast is to bring forth the plight of victims of murder. And you’re worried about how I pronounce my words. So I’ve had people tell me they didn’t like how I say birthday with an F and I don’t say birthday or that I say sometimes my accent does come out and I say dem instead of them. What is the point of this podcast? Is it that I speak with a specific accent or that I get across a crazy murder such as this? Theresa Noor. CPS needed to be checked at that time. I’m not saying now because this was back in the 80s 90s. CPS needed to be checked. The Utah Police Department at that time needed to be checked. Nobody was listening to these children. This bitch is crazy. This story needed to go out. Terry died trying to get this story out. I’m here putting the story out so that if any of this may be happening to somebody else. You look across the street and you see your neighbor with unhappy children constantly, and you barely see them out and anything like that. And this story kind of reminds you of these children. So it helps you in knowing what steps to take. Isn’t that more important than if I’m saying snow wing?

I’m wondering why some people listen to true crime podcasts

I’m just, I’m just wondering here. I’m wondering why some people listen to true crime podcasts. Is it for the, the gore and the horror and the shock, or is it to actually learn something and get the story out there about the horrors that have happened to some of these victims, their families and everything like that. These people who have to live with this from day to day to day to day. Why do you listen to True Crime? I just, I just thought about that because when I read that review, not that my podcast wasn’t good, not none of that. It’s just basically my accent got on her nerves and I was just like, why are you listening to True Crime if you’re worried about the person’s accent to the point that you took time out of your day to leave a review? I just don’t understand it. But anyway, that’s not why I’m here to do this true Crime. I’m here to get the victim story out there. I’m here to help anybody who might be going through the same thing. I’m here to help the family and friends and the survivors of, uh, these cases to hear to get their story told, to hear that there’s someone who is just as angry as they are that this happened to their loved ones and. Or if there were instances of, um, this could have been prevented or something wasn’t done that should have been done so that they could hear somebody is just as frustrated and angry as them. This is why I do my True Crime podcast. And I’m sorry, I’m from the Caribbean. I will not be changing my accent. It comes out heavy sometimes and sometimes it doesn’t. And if it, if that bothers you, then this podcast is not for you. If your goal is not to learn something from this podcast, if your goal is just shock and awe and another true crime, then this podcast isn’t for you. With that being said, it’s hard to get reviews in the first place. So if y’all want to do me a favor, encounter these stupid, unfounded one star reviews that are talking about my accent or dropping ings or whatever, then head on over to Apple Podcast, whatever podcast platform you listen to, Love and Murder on. And please leave me a five star review just to counteract these, these one star reviews that are there for no reason. Now, I didn’t say all of this, honestly, I didn’t say all of this to ask you to leave me a review. You don’t have to leave me a review. But I’m just saying people leave these one star reviews for just question mark reasons. So if you want to help me out, encounter the one star with a five star, please go ahead and go to whatever platform you’re listening on. Whether it be Apple, whether it be Spotify or Spreaker or whatever platform. Please leave me a five star review that’ll be greatly appreciated. You can or you don’t have to. That’s not why I’m doing this podcast and that’s not why I even said this minutia at the end.

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Anyways, off of that bad news onto some good news. I did enjoy my break and I think I will be doing this again in December, taking December off and giving y’all quick rants. Y’all did love my quick rants and I did have a lot of comments coming out, so I need to gather all the comments and go back to reading your comments on Ear. Like I said, I did miss y’all. So happy to be back. And now this, uh, end in Minutia is becoming a novel, so I’m gonna go ahead and wrap it up. If you want to be a sponsor of Love and Murder, don’t forget to go on over to my Patreon. If you don’t want to be a sponsor yet, you can still sign up for Patreon for free. Just choose the free option and you can still be a lamb patreon that way. Patreon.com loveandmurder don’t forget to go ahead and answer this poll. And don’t forget the way we end every full episode. So let’s do it for the first episode of season five, y’all. I remind you that it’s all, uh, love and no murder, y’all. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for giving me five wonderful years so far. And let’s make this season five great. And I will see you, um, in the next episode. Bye. Um.