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An incomplete love saga – but was it? Or was it just a figment of someone’s imagination. A murder uncovered a quarter of a century later. What took so long? Tune in for a case that has so many twists an turns. It’s the case of Stephanie Lazarus right now on Love and Murder.

Welcome everyone! Welcome to a new episode of Love and Murder – the weekly true crime podcast discussing relationships gone terribly wrong. Where our motto is [you’re either someone’s last love or first murder]

I am your host Ky and our show discusses true crime cases told in the form of a story with mystery and suspense.

In today’s episode, we’re talking about a case of Protect and serve… Loyalty to the badge or revenge for a heartbreak – Is a vow enough to compete with true love?  We’re talking a love triangle that shocked everyone.

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Now, on to the show…

Introduction

Friends with benefits… this term is often used to describe people who are buddies but occasionally sleep together, no strings attached, no emotional commitment, nothing.

Well, that’s not always the case, as you probably know, one person always ends up complicating things. In this case, we are going to talk about one such couple where things went too far. 

Let’s wind the clock back to 1978 Los Angeles. The year Dawn of the Dead and Halloween came out. LA was all palm trees, lights… and homicides. 

Stephanie

Eighteen-year-old Stephanie Illene Lazarus was a freshman at UCLA. Unlike most teens, Stephanie was extremely focused on her health and fitness. Passionate about exercising and remaining fit, she used to run and even trained in combat. She played for the junior varsity women’s basketball team, being athletic and agile. 

Majoring in political science, Stephanie was a well-spoken and successful individual. 

One thing was, you wouldn’t call her…  attractive. She wasn’t bad looking either, she had beautiful brown hair and a pleasant smile… but she was a bit plain. Not my words so don’t come after me. Still, Stephanie, like most young people, loved to party. 

At one such party, she met a guy named John Reutten. 

John

At the party, and even after, they couldn’t stop talking and enjoyed each other’s company. Turned out he lived at Dykstra Hall, UCLA’S dorm on and off campus. John was a fitness enthusiast just like her. The two really got along well. He was studying mechanical engineering at UCLA, so the two saw each other often. 

For two years, the two remained friends, sometimes flirtatious, sometimes not. Shortly after, (it’s unclear when) Stephanie and John ended up sleeping together. Some say it was after graduation, but it wasn’t clearly stated in my research. Anyway, it was just a hookup, neither wanted anything more from the other – or so they thought. 

In a twist, while John thought they were just friends, Stephanie on the other hand hoped for more. She would sometimes steal his clothes as he showered or snapped naked pictures of him while he was asleep. He never took any of that seriously, and just laughed it off. In 1983, John graduated and got a job at Micropolis, a hard drive manufacturing company while Stephanie surprised everyone by applying and getting selected to the police academy. So, before I move on, I have focus on that company’s name – Micropolis. Isn’t that like a business in a comic? Like where Superman’s best friend works or something? LOL Micropolist. Anyway, the two had known each other for five years now, meeting off and on, sometimes not speaking for long periods of time. But Stephanie knew John’s family well and was considered a close personal friend, so she was around them alot.

As the two kept it casual, their friends considered it an open relationship and had gotten used to seeing them when they were together and when they were apart. It wasn’t a big deal – was just Stephanie and John being Stephanie and John. So friends didn’t think much about it when they saw John with a beautiful blonde woman. 

Sherri

Sherri Rasmussen was described as being pretty with golden hair, a  charming smile, 6” tall, and had a cute little pointy chin. John met her in 1984 at a party. After getting into nursing college at only 16 years old, Sherri’s career was on a fast track, and by her late twenties, she would become the director of nursing at Glendale Adventist Medical Center, giving lectures on nursing… basically the face of a successful nursing profession.

John and Sherri’s romance was fast-paced as well. 

What he didn’t realize is that by this time was that Stephanie had developed serious feelings for him. The two hadn’t seen each other in months, but that was normal for them, with their busy schedules. Stephanie often met to have sex with him, or vice versa. So he really wasn’t expecting her to do something caring.

To his shock, in September of 1984, Stephanie decided to throw him a surprise 25th birthday party. 

She got everyone they knew together and surprised him. At the party, she heard talk of a woman named Sherri. She listened to what everyone was saying and asked around. That’s when she realized that John was in a serious relationship. Stephanie asked John why he didn’t tell her and why didn’t they ever get together.  

John’s defense was that he and Stephanie had never been serious; also Stephanie never said anything to him about how she felt and he liked their relationship how it was. Plus they barely ever saw each other so what was the big deal. Then he met Sherri and developed feelings for her. Stephanie’s heart broke.

But it would get broken even more because within a year, John and Sherri got engaged AND he bought her a BMW as an engagement present. Damn

Stephanie did not take it well at all; in fact, she was inconsolable. I don’t understand how – they weren’t ever together AND this is like a year an some later. How are you still hung up on him?

By August, she made it clear to his family how she felt about John. I mean – it only took 7 years. She told John’s mom  “I’m truly in love with John and the past year has really torn me up, I wish it didn’t end the way it did, and I don’t think I’ll ever understand his decision.” 

At this time, Stephanie had finally made it to the police force, and was an officer at the Los Angeles Police Department, but despite the stides she’d made in her life, and her success professionally, she was incredibly depressed. You know, there are some people who are just bent on keeping themselves in a dark place no matter how good everything is going around them. No, I’m not talking about people who are dealing with depression; I’m talking about people who decide to keep themselves in the dumps. Do you know what I’m talking about?

In her journal, she wrote, “I really don’t feel like working. I found out that John is getting married.” 

One day, she called John and begged him to rethink his marriage to Sherri. Because of their years of friendship, John didn’t want to hurt her feelings and he tried everything he could to make her feel better. They agreed to meet at his condo to possibly give Stephanie some sort of closure, anything to help her get over this situation. 

When she arrived, she was inconsolable and she told him she loved him. John felt bad but there wasn’t much he could do; he just didn’t feel the same way.  No matter what he did or said, Stephanie wouldn’t stop crying

Finally, Stephanie asked him to have sex with her one last time “for old time’s sake” and “closure.” How is having sex with someone you’re in love with giving you closure? I don’t understand this mindset. I mean, I do – she just wanted to have sex with him; I don’t understand his decision –

John agreed, relieved to be able to do something to get her to stop crying. Bad idea. 

When she got home, she woke her roommate, Mike Hargreaves, a fellow police officer, and told him everything. She said he was going to marry someone else, and suggested the two do “buddy sit-ups” together to make her feel better. Mike complied, not finding it odd at all since Stephanie was a workout fanatic and this fit her profile. 

She claimed she felt better and was over the “breakup”.

The next day, John confessed to Sherri and begged her, “Don’t let this mess us up.” You should have thought about that earlier don’t you think? He assured her that this was the only time this ever happened and would ever happen. 

Love triangle or running in circles?

John’s plan kind of backfired because Stephanie started showing up at the couples’ condo with various excuses as to why.

One day, Stephanie showed up, dressed in barely there workout clothes, to ask John to wax her skis. Really? Couldn’t have taken it to a store. John tried to say no but Stephanie persisted. For some reason, John said ok and took the skis. When she left, Sherri asked John about Stephanie and his relationship. John assured her that they were just friends and nothing was going on. 

A couple of days later, Stephanie showed up again, this time in uniform and carrying a weapon, to retrieve her waxed skis while John was at work. Sherri felt very intimidated and didn’t want to be alone with Stephanie. 

Sherri was close to her father, Nels Rasmussen,  and the next time she spoke to him, she mentioned the incident. She told him that she was afraid and uncomfortable with Stephanie coming around. 

Sherri spotted Stephanie a few times just randomly being “around” in  public settings. 

John told her it was all in her head, and that Stephanie was over it, everything was fine. He claimed Stephanie was busy with her career and she had nothing to worry about. 

One day, Stephanie visited Sherri at work to tell her that things were not over between her and John “If I can’t have John, no one else will.” 

Despite the one-time cheating and the drama caused by Stephanie, the couple had a solid relationship. They were always together, taking pictures, holding hands, and being lovey-dovey. 

In November 1985, they got married and lived in a condo on Balboa Boulevard, Van Nuys. 

Life moved on. 29-year-old Sherri became director of Nursing at Glendale Adventist Medical Center and had a lot of managerial responsibilities. She attended an aerobics class, went to work, and spoke to her sister, life turned into a routine, as it normally does. In the two years she had known John, the two had managed to build a lifetime of memories together. They were happily married and blissfully in their own little world. 

Stephanie was also climbing up the ranks as an officer of the law, and it appeared to John that things had settled down. Whew what a relief, BUT this is Love and Murder after all.

 A tragedy

On the morning of February 24th, 1986, the three-month newly married Sherri was supposed to give a motivational speech at her hospital. However, she’d hurt her back working out a couple of days ago so she told John she was going to call in sick. 

John kissed her goodbye and went to work.

Around 9:45 am, a neighbor noticed the Reutten’s garage door was open and there was no car inside. Assuming the couple went out and forgot to shut the door, the neighbor went about her day.

10:00 am, John made the first of many calls of the day. Sherri wasn’t answering the phone, which was weird. Her sister’s calls also went unanswered. 

The neighbor who noticed the garage door was with her husband when two men (possibly gardeners) handed her a purse.  It turned out to be Sherri’s purse. A maid cleaning a unit nearby claimed she heard something that sounded like a fight and someone fell down or something broke at 12:30 pm that day. This just sounded like regular gossip, nothing too serious. She assumed it was a domestic dispute.

That evening, when John returned home, he instantly knew something was wrong. The garage door was wide open and there was broken glass in the driveway. Sherri’s BMW was missing which was weird because she never went out without letting him know of her plans. He thought she wasn’t going to work. The answering machine wasn’t on either, and the two always turned it on when there was nobody home. Maybe she forgot he thought.

As he proceeded to the living room… he stopped dead in his tracks. Among the broken porcelain vase, the bloody handprint on the burglar alarm’s panic button…. Was his beautiful wife… dead. 

Clad in nothing but a bathrobe, nightgown and underwear, she was sprawled across the living room floor, having been shot three times. There were defensive wounds all over her body and a large bruise that was caused by the muzzle of a gun.

John immediately called 911 while covering her body with a blanket. He realized that the quilted blanket had been used to silence the gun sounds as the perpetrator shot her. 

Officers on the scene gathered a lot of evidence. A video cassette recorder and other electronic devices were piled up in a way that showed the killers were trying to rob the place, and had panicked and left things in a hurry. The house was ransacked. 

Sherri’s body indicated she had fought back, and even made it to the burglar alarm button near the toppled credenza. Her wrists indicated that someone had tried to tie her up at some point during the struggle. 

Investigators also found a bite mark on Sherri’s arm and swabbed it for DNA. 

Unfortunately, back then in the 80s, there could be no proper reading of such a small sample… so the swab went into storage for 23 years.

 Investigation

The detective on the case, Lyle Mayer pointed out that a bloody thumbprint on the video cassette recorder had Sherri’s blood on it. The “burglar” was wearing gloves, but interestingly, they had stacked the equipment after killing Sherri and then left in a hurry. Didn’t make sense to him. 

He ruled out John as a suspect after continued interrogations and investigation. Nels and Loretta, her parents, told the police about Stephanie’s stalking and harassment.  Shortly before her death, his daughter had again confided in him her fear that Stephanie was following her on the streets. Now, although this information was given, officers didn’t question John about Stephanie, and he never thought of her since Sherri had stopped complaining about her. So that was it when it came to the information on Stephanie.

Once cleared, the heartbroken John quit his job and moved away from LA.

The police still treated this case as a burglary, especially after a similar breaking and entering incident happened soon after Sherri’s murder. The suspect had used a .38 caliber, much like the one that fired three shots into Sherri. But then again, why would a burglar take the time to muffle the gunshot and shoot at such close range if it was accidental shooting? Things weren’t adding up for anyone who was paying attention.

And clearly, the LAPD wasn’t paying attention for some reason.

Lyle Mayer’s partner, Steve Hooks found the bite mark odd, as bites are typically associated with females during a fight. But maybe he thought he was stereotyping women, he didn’t pursue it further. 

Now in the 80s, there was a huge crack epidemic. LA was struck with gang wars and other crimes and the police force was very busy. While Sherri’s parents put up a reward to identify and capture the “burglar”, her father wrote to the Chief of Police, pleading with him to look into the matter and saying Stephanie was possibly involved.

It’s important to state here, the detectives did not take this man seriously. They told him he watched too much television and made dismissive comments. They stopped taking his phone calls. Nels questioned officers, how could the six feet tall Sherri be overpowered by burglars? She was in great physical shape and wasn’t easy to tackle. Officer Mayer told him the struggle must have lasted an hour and a half. 

An hour and a half, and they left everything? Ask yourself, do you really think that could be the case? 

In 1992, when crime in Los Angeles was at it’s peak, Nels was still working hard at getting someone to listen. By 1993, DNA testing technology had advanced and it was possible to get all the evidence checked for DNA. He was turned away, despite offering to pay for the test. 

Now you must be wondering… Where was Stephanie, now that Sherri was out of the way?

While all this was going on, she had reported her off-duty weapon as stolen. She opened her own PI firm and still worked for the LAPD. She rose through the ranks in the PD, and in 1987 she earned a lot of medals including a gold medal at the World Police and Fire Games in San Diego. In 1989, she ran into John but didn’t once ask about Sherri. 

John eventually moved on – based on my research, I’m estimating more than 3 years later he got remarried and built a life.

Detective Mayer’s notes show that John had double-checked with him to make sure if Stephanie was involved, or whether there was any connecting evidence. Again, they failed to mention Nel’s insistence on investigating Stephanie’s stalking. 

Unfortunately, Detective Mayer eventually retired, and the new detective assigned to the case failed to follow Officer Mayer’s files on this case. 

In 1993, after a glowing performance at Drug Abuse Resistance Education and Internal Affairs, Stephanie finally made detective. Yes, around the same time that Nels was trying to get that swab tested again.

By ‘96, she was married to a fellow officer, Scott Young and the two adopted a daughter. She moved back to her hometown, Simi Valley, and became an instructor at the police academy of the Valley. She was even honored for her work in the art forgery department. 

The LAPD formed a department for investigating cold cases in the late ‘90s, to investigate potential leads from newer DNA testing methods. In Sherri’s case, the evidence collected from her home was in that department; however, it wasn’t until 2004 that the evidence saw daylight. 

Criminalist Jennifer Francis was granted access to not only the evidence, but the entire case which was something that wasnt usual for someone in her position. She was able to analyze the swab collected from Sherri’s bite mark, but she noticed something weird. 

First, some of the evidence was missing. This included vital pieces that might contain the killer’s DNA. Apparently, it was collected in 1993 by another detective. Luckily, one thing was left behind, that swab of saliva in the storage. Unable to find a match in the Combined DNA Index System database, she could derive it came from a female, which meant the burglar theory was disproved.

Funny thing is, she also found a note in the file about a “third-party female” who had been harassing Sherri at her home and workplace shortly before her death. When Jennifer reported her findings to a superior, he’s quoted as saying, “Oh you mean the LAPD detective.” He stated that she was the victim’s husband’s ex and was a respectable LAPD officer, and she wasn’t part of this. So basically he dismissed the idea of foul play and insisted that Sherri’s death was the cause of a burglary. 

As no other detective wanted to pursue the case, the evidence went back into the cold case files. This is amazingly shocking!

The case went cold, again, until 2009 when crime in Los Angeles had quieted down enough for officers to look into cold cases and missing persons.

Detectives Jim Nuttall and Pete Barba reviewed Sherri’s files. They quickly debunked the burglary theory – well Jennifer had already done that – and started the investigation over from the beginning; which is a smart way to work if you’re just coming in behind someone else’s work.  They decided to investigate this as a murder instead of a burglery, which would make any detective look at everything differently. From all of the evidence, they got a list of 4 female suspects together. As they started to call about each suspect, they realized that one of them literally worked right next door to them.

By this time, Stephanie was only one of two female detectives on the only existing full-time unit devoted to art forgery and had media attention when she and her partner recovered a stolen statue of Carthay Circle. She had learned to paint, was actively involved in the Los Angeles Women Police Officers Association, and even helped organize childcare for officers’ families. She was also a great neighbor in Simi Valley. She made her neighbors chocolate-covered cherries and handmade soap at the end of each year. 

Obviously, they knew each other as colleagues so Jim and Pete had to proceed with caution to avoid tipping off their suspect, considering her respectable position and reputation. In fact, they ranked her fifth in their list of suspects, the least promising of their five potential suspects. Things got interesting when they found out she and John had dated and broken up just a summer before Sherri’s murder. 

They theorized; how would an officer murder? Obviously, it would be calculated and smart as they are trained on MO’s and what to look for to catch criminals.

They started going over her life in the mid-80s. She owned a Smith &Wesson Model 49 .38, and had claimed it was stolen right? This was 13 days after Sherri’s murder. She was also off-duty the day of the crime, which kind of backed Jim and Pete’s theory about an off-duty officer. They also found out she had been stalking Sherri. Why hadn’t this complaint been investigated?!

 Referring to Stephanie only as “No. 5,” the detectives worked behind closed doors or after hours, and never revealed any details or progress to anyone. Stephanie’s husband worked in the Commercial Crimes Division, so things had to be kept hush-hush.  

Stephanie and her husband had friends in the department and they were always talking about how vivacious and supportive she was. 

But for Jim and Pete, she was the prime suspect now.

Unbeknownst to Stephanie, some detectives secretly followed her for one day, and kept a close watch. They caught a break when they retrieved a cup she’d thrown away. They took it in for testing against the evidence – the DNA – that they had from the crime scene. 

The moment of truth that we knew deep down… the results found a match. After all these years, Stephanie Lazarus’ DNA matched the DNA found on the bite mark.

Arrest

Now her arrest had to be planned very, very carefully. They didn’t want any rats telling her and making her a flight risk. Rob Bub, the detective supervisor at Van Nuys carefully let his superior officers in on the case, including Chief William Bratton and prosecutors from LA.

While the case was transferred to the Robbery-Homicide Division (RHD), they had to be careful because the art theft bureau, where Stephanie worked, was in this particular Division. 

On the day of the arrest, a shit ton load of officers were summoned before sunrise and briefed about the situation… only knowing about a search warrant outside the city, no names though. They were taken to an area to wait near Stephanie’s home in Simi Valley.

Then, detectives, who didn’t know Stephanie personally, were selected from the RHD and were called to a lockup at Parker Center. That was a smart move, it eliminated the possibility of armed resistance at her end since she had to check her gun in before entering. 

The unsuspecting Stephanie was brought to an interrogation room, and detectives deceived her by claiming there was a suspect who wanted to talk about art theft.  

They switched it later when she was secure, telling her they were simply trying to close up the Sherri Rasmussen case and her name was connected to the files. 

She was asked if she knew John Reutten and she acted like she hadn’t thought of him in a long time, taking a long pause. But she was breathing heavily and visibly nervous. 

I’ll actually have the interrogation video in our Patreon – www.patreon.com/loveandmurder 

After dismissing this accusation she told them she needed an attorney but the detectives proceeded with caution, careful not to set her off to her right to remain silent. Isn’t the interrogation supposed to stop as soon as the suspect asks for an attorney? They talked about other things with her, distracting her with friendly conversation. The interrogation lasted over an hour and eventually the detectives came back to the matter at hand, requesting a DNA sample. She refused and left the room, and there it was. They arrested her and charged her with murder.

Upon searching her apartment, they found her journal from the 80s that spoke volumes about her love for John, something she had downplayed during her interrogation. Her computer had also searched John’s name during the late 90s.

News of Stephanie’s arrest shocked the police force. She was a friendly, dependable colleague! Held in the LA County Jail, she was allowed an early retirement from the force, which is sort of unjust considering she was an alleged murderer. So with retirement, she would get her pension as opposed to if she was fired.

When her bail hearing was held six months later – SIX MONTHS LATER (mind you, due to a horrible investigation, how long has been been allowed to be free? YEARS) Anyway, six month later. Bail hearing. Judge Robert J. Perry set her bail at $10 million in cash, way beyond what the defense suggested. The evidence against the ex-police officer was strong so she was at risk of fleeing the country. After many months in jail… her brother, Steven Lazarus, filed a complaint that she wasn’t receiving cancer treatment. Cancer? When did she get cancer? It was and Unspecified cancer. Wow. He also appealed her bail be set reasonable. Theres also a video of his appeal which is also in our Patreon.

By October 2009, the defense lawyer Overland tried to get the entire case dismissed claiming initial investigators had failed, not his client. Absurd as it is, it was a good defense. He included missing evidence, Sherri’s blood toxicology report, and even a polygraph test that he claimed John had failed. Wow What he failed to mention was, John had willingly given his DNA to find justice for his dead wife. The case went on into 2010, and the defense claimed the quality of evidence must have degraded in 23 years. 

During the trial, a lot more evidence was missing, including Nels Rasmussen’s interview, records of transcripts, and everything except that note in Officer Mayer’s file about a former girlfriend harassing Sherri. Foul play, obviously, but nobody could pin it on the police department. Nels and Loretta testified about giving interviews to the police, about the transcripts, about everything they could.

John’s sister showed the letter Stephanie had written to her mother in August 1985, obsessing over John and Sherri. It included details about the physical nature of their relationship.

A tearful John testified, saying though they had slept together 20-30 times between 1981 to 1983, they had never dated, she was a friend and nothing more. He never imagined she would do this to his wife.

During the trial, Stephanie didn’t make eye contact with John. She wouldn’t even look at the screen when Sherri’s photographs came up. She just had this crazed look on her face.

Imagine… two decades later… everything Nels had said turned out to be true!

Convicted

The events of February 24, 1986 were finally revealed. What really happened to Sherri Rasmussen?

Well, that morning after John had left, Stephanie, wearing gloves, had picked the lock and broken into the Reutten’s home. As soon as Sherri saw her, she screamed, and the crazed killer shot her with her 0.38 caliber revolver. She was careful to use her personal weapon so she could keep her police-issued gun safe, avoiding any investigation.

The first shot hit a window because Sherrie had sprinted. Stephanie tackled her. Though Sherri was a much larger woman, Stephanie, an officer of the law, was trained to fight, and easily overpowered Sherri. When Sherri put a sleeper hold on Stephanie, she bit her hard, enough to make her let go.

Soon as she let go, Stephanie sprang up and smashed a porcelain vase on Sherri’s head. She then struck her across the face with the butt of her revolver despite Sherri being unconscious. Pure jealousy and contempt.

She carefully wrapped the barrel of her revolver in a blanket to muffle the sounds and shot her ex’s wife three times in the heart and the face. 

Satisfied that Sherri was finally gone, she quickly made the scene look like a robbery gone wrong, an expert on such things. She knocked over furniture, pulled out drawers, and stacked a video cassette recorder and CD player the way a burglar would intending to steal the equipment. 

It was all carried out so perfectly that the LAPD rolled around in the burglar theory for all these years. The hunt for an armed robber kept them distracted. No leads, hardly any physical evidence, no hair, fiber, blood, or evidence except Sherri’s own blood. Nothing to connect her to the crime. It seemed like the perfect murder and she almost got away with it, never imagining that years later, technological advancement in DNA testing would allow the old bite swab to be tested, and her vile actions would get her caught. 

Stephanie was convicted of first-degree murder in 2012. 

This forked further into two lawsuits, one by Jennifer Francis (remember the criminalist?) claiming the LAPD hid evidence and failed to investigate when she insisted on Officer Lazarus… She also claimed she feared retaliation and harassment trying to report this to superiors and the harassment continued in 2013 despite Stephanie being behind bars.  

The other was of misconduct, filed by Nels and Loretta Rasmussen, as you must have guessed, about being dismissed regarding their fear. 

Anyway, Stephanie was sentenced to 27 years to life in prison and will be eligible for parole in the year 2034. This was further discussed in a press conference due to the nature of the crime and an Officer’s involvement to ensure trust in the police force. Videos of all of this are – you guessed it – in our Patreon www.patreon.com/loveandmurder 

Outro

And that LaMs is the case of Stphanie Lazarus. Sherri is dead, Stephanie was allowed to literally live her life, and Sherri’s parents and widow have been going through such a tough time for so many years.

So… What do you guys think? Justice delayed is justice denied?

It took authorities a quarter of a century to solve this one… Had they listened to Nels, maybe it could have sped up the process. Or maybe they just didn’t want to listen to Nels because of who was being accused.

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